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Just the Crystals -- One of the Best Selling Litters on Amazon! Fragrance Free & Conveniently Packaged with TWO Pre-measured 4.4lb Bags Per Box | 
| Brand: Forever Litter Trays Category: Kitchen
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Rating: 76 reviews Sales Rank: 4549
Media: Misc. Shipping Weight (lbs): 9.4 Dimensions (in): 11.2 x 8.9 x 7.7
MPN: jtc-1 UPC: 718122171576 EAN: 0718122171576 ASIN: B002PBCQDG
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| Features:
| • | One of the best selling litters on Amazon! Crystals are now even MORE absorbent! | | • | Great for a wide variety of litter box applications | | • | No more guessing -- two pre-measured bags per box | | • | Crystals are just the right size for optimal performance | | • | Fragrance free, with fully recyclable packaging |
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Product Description Conveniently packaged in 2 pre-measured, recyclable bags, these crystals are specifically designed to work in both standard litter boxes as well as certain automatic boxes.
Every box contains TWO bags, each weighing an ideal 4.4lbs, for a total of 8.8lbs of premium crystals.
(Forever Litter Trays, Inc. is not affiliated with ScoopFree, Lucky Litter or Brilliant Pet. ScoopFree is a registered trademark of Lucky Litter LLC)
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Excellent choice for the ScoopFree self-cleaning litter box November 27, 2009 Ashok Aiyar (New Orleans, LA United States) 38 out of 39 found this review helpful
The ScoopFree automated litter-box is the best thing that's happened to my two cats. They have a clean litter-box five minutes after they're done, and I need to clean it just once a week. That being said, ScoopFree Litter Tray Refills are expensive, running about $150 every two months. So like many others in the "ScoopFree family", I switched from using the pre-packaged trays to the permanent Forever Litter Tray®, designed by Rick Weldon. This works very well, and has significantly dropped the cost of use, and can be used with any crystal litter that is small enough to fit between the grills of the ScoopFree. And therein lie two problems: 1) A crystal size that is too small is less effective at absorbing liquids; 2) Most pre-packaged litter is sold in 8 lb bags (eg. FreshStep) - and each fill of the ScoopFree Litter Tray takes 4.4 lbs.
In one move, Just the Crystals solves both problems. It is a perfect fit for the ScoopFree grill, and not so small that it doesn't soak up liquids efficiently. Also, it is shipped as two 4.4 lbs per box - which is two refills of the ScoopFree. The litter doesn't have as much of a perfume associated with it as FreshStep, and is close to being completely perfume-free. The ratio of white to blue crystals is skewed toward white - this makes it easier to visually the state of the litter, and rake it if necessary.
Finally, what could be more convenient than having it delivered straight to your door? This is a quality product that perfectly complements that Forever Litter Tray®.
I recommend the product very very highly!
[Edited 5-8-2010 with some tips ...]
I've noticed that the negative reviews of this product complain about two issues: a) poor absorbance, and consequently more frequent litter changes; and b) odor control. We have two large Maine Coons (>15 lb), and yet change the litter only every two weeks. During this time, the cats have used the litter box between 55 - 65 times (about 2 times per cat per day). Here is what we do, using suggestions from Rick Weldon's Forever Litter Tray website.
1) We rake the litter twice a week.
2) We have a small fan diagonally above the Scoopfree that continuously blows a gentle breeze on the litter.
3) I scoop the dried poop after 1 week because our cats poop a lot.
4) We clip an old sock filled with 1-2 oz of activated charcoal above the litter box. We replace the activated charcoal in the sock every month, but it can probably go much longer.
With the raking and fan, no more than 20% of the crystals are water-saturated after two weeks (chalky white or blue in appearance). Scooping the poop at the end of the first week and using activated charcoal provides really good odor control. The fan probably helps with this as well.
Before we started using these tips from Rick's website, I had to change the litter every week - sometimes after 5 days otherwise one of our cats, Allie - who's really fastidious, would pee and/or poop right outside the Scoopfree. I started with steps 1 & 3, and that helped quite a bit; Allie would get queasy around the 10 days time-point. After adding 2 & 4 we've never had an issue for as long as we've tested - which is two weeks.
I hope this helps .....
Pros and Cons January 3, 2010 Charlie Howard (Wine Country, USA) 30 out of 32 found this review helpful
My cats have been using the Forever Litter tray for 2-1/2 years. It works well and being able to refill it cuts operating costs in half, as compared with ScoopFree's cartridges.
Mostly, I was buying the 8-pound ScoopFree Crystals at Target, and with 2 cats, half a jug lasted 10-15 days. Then, Target raised the price and introduced its own brand for $11.59, so, taking the hint, I switched. The Target brand works well enough, but not quite as well as Scoopfree's. Half a jug lasts about 10 days, rarely 14; and there's more of a "crunch" sound when the rake moves under the blue lid of the catbox.
Now, I've tried "Just the Crystals" (JTC), and have mixed feelings about it:
Pros: Convenience: 1. pre-measured, 2. delivered to your door
Cons: 3. costs more than Target's house-brand; 4. does NOT last longer; 5. more likely to jam the machine.
Explanation and details:
1. PRE-MEASURED: The JTC box contains two 4.4 pound bags, so you just open a bag and dump it into the (cleaned and empty) Forever Tray. The other brands come in 8-pound jugs, so you have to estimate when you've poured out the first half (I'm now weighing the jug with a package scale). As anyone who uses the Forever Tray knows, quantity is critical: unlike clay litter systems, you can't get away with just pouring an approximate quantity.
2. DELIVERED: no-brainer here. I rarely go to Target except to buy cat litter and cat treats, so JTC wins this one hands-down (and paws-down); and it's worth paying a bit extra for this convenience.
3. COSTS MORE: a box of JTC is $14.99; a jug of Target's house brand is $11.59 (plus possible sales tax). Each is good for two "cycles" (one cycle is about 10 days with my 2 cats). The argument that you're getting more litter doesn't hold up, because of point #4, below: more litter doesn't mean it lasts longer. What matters is cost-per-year. Even allowing for sales tax, JTC will cost about $1.15 more per cycle, or $40/year more. That must be balanced against the convenience factors, both of which are valuable.
4. DOES NOT LAST LONGER: the first bag of JTC lasted barely 8 days. I stretched the second one to 10 days, but really should have replaced it sooner. The Target brand has never lasted less than 10 days, and the genuine ScoopFree usually lasted 12-15 days. So, even though there's an extra 0.4 pounds of crystals with JTC, it didn't translate into longer useful life. And yes, I stirred and aerated the crystals regularly.
5. MORE LIKELY TO JAM THE MACHINE: this is a biggie. The reason why the quantity of crystal litter is critical with the ScoopFree Self-Cleaning Litter Box is that too little will leave large bare areas in the Tray, while too much will cause the rake to jam (and twist!) when it gets to the covered receptacle area. The extra 0.4 pounds seems to be too much for my machine ... sometimes. Not always, but a couple of times a week. NOTE: I'm using the 2nd generation of Forever Litter Tray, and think the ridge on the bottom may be the culprit. Previously, I'd been using the 1st gen version, and do not recall EVER having a jam with it. With this 2nd gen Tray, I've also had jams with Target's litter and Scoopfree's, but only when I put in more than half a jug. (That's why I weigh things now.) I suppose a solution to both points 4 and 5 would be to take about a cup of crystals out and set them aside, until enough have accumulated to use as a "bonus" refill; but a better solution might be for JTC to reduce the quantity to 8 pounds and the price by 10%.
BOTTOM LINE: Will I buy it again? Not sure. For now, I'm planning to just stock up every few months at Target; and I may try going back to the 1st gen Forever Tray to see whether the jamming is caused by the Tray or by the litter box mechanism itself.
DO I RECOMMEND IT: Depends. Your results might be slightly better than mine. If you don't live near a Target store, and do use Amazon Prime, then yes, I'd definitely recommend it. Just monitor things for a while to make sure the larger quantity isn't causing jams.
Love this litter. December 2, 2009 E. A. Allred 12 out of 12 found this review helpful
I received my first order of this litter the day before Thanksgiving, on the afternoon my family was to arrive for a 5 day visit. I hurriedly changed the litter box, replacing the old litter with Just the Crystals -- made especially for Forever Litter Trays® (two 4.4lb bags/box) (thank you pre-measured packaging) and promptly forgot about the litter box completely! For the next five days it was totally a non-issue, no smell, no tracking and no stress. Now that I am slowly recovering from the holiday, I've started paying attention to the litter box again and guess what - 1 week later it still does not require my attention.
In the spirit of total honesty I did a quick sweep around the box about every other day but I don't consider that an inconvenience and I am very happy with this product, just as I was with the Forever Litter Tray® (permanent replacement for Scoop Free® disposable cartridges).
Fantastic! Perfect Size, no more guessing!! December 23, 2009 tdub (nc) 5 out of 5 found this review helpful
I had been using off-brand, usually never the same brand twice of various litters since having the litter tray. Some of them were clay based, causing massive clumps and sometimes jamming the combing action of the tray. then the different crystals, sometimes the crystals were a bit too thick and the combing action couldnt just filter out the kitten crap.
Well after receiving several emails from the original designer of the litter tray, he had mentioned that he was in the process of getting or negotiating this deal with someoen on amazon. Well these crystals are just perfect. great price, great deal on shipping, but even more to the point.. the crustals are the perfect size and in the perfect proportions. I cant count how many times I had previously poured too much litter intot he trays to have probably caused some of my own issues with the tray.
The crystals last a fairly decent time, based on when I made my order and received them, im still on the first portion. Probably 3 weeks now.
Ill definitely be making several repeat orders. If only I could teach the new puppy to use the tray too!!
Crystals seem to absorb the urine and also absorb the odors from the tray fairly well. The wife complains much less than with some of the other previous litter fillers. She's pregnant, so odor control is important, she has very heightened senses lately ;)(
Hope this review helps.
This Is Just Stupid March 12, 2010 Mr_Snrub (Seattle, WA) 4 out of 4 found this review helpful
$15 and free shipping with Prime for two perfectly sized Scoopfree refills? I hate to sound like a shill, but you can't find better crystals or an equal cost for them. I'm going to be very clear about this: if you know about these crystals and don't use them then you're most likely a moron.
I haven't noticed any difference in how long they last - they seem to last longer, but two cycles is too small a sample size with 2.25 cats using the box (two indoor, one 3/4 outdoor). No variance in odor. Actually, with Scoopfree or Target crystals once the odor started to go foul it was almost immediate. Not quite sure, but these seem to provde an extra day to 3 days of use by controlling the odor a bit better.
Speaking of Target, I haven't seen Target's brand of crystals in any of the last 7 stores I've visited. That was the only cheaper alternative I knew of besides Safeway (but crystals are way too big).
If you've got yourself a Forever Litter Tray then do yourself a favor and quit looking around and simply order these.
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